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Gun Control/Rights Thread (Redirected)
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This thread was redirected, from Ned's Political Thread.
So argue all you want about gun issues here.
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#2
Perfect. :D

Thomas Jefferson's failure to ban slavery is... well... a failure, is it not?
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(2 Jul 2015, 20:56:31)kingjohnthefirst Wrote: Perfect. :D

Thomas Jefferson's failure to ban slavery is... well... a failure, is it not?
Don't blame him. It was shot out the window. Besides since when is Gun Rights does anything with slavery. Slavery was out along time ago in America.

Come 'on Leftists I know you got something better than that.
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I just don't understand why any government anywhere would take away domestic and individual tranquility and safety by disarming their citizens. No empire seeking peace in their right mind would actively seek to un-empower its own citizens.

- I don't see any leftists here.
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(2 Jul 2015, 20:59:11)President Jackson Cole Wrote:
(2 Jul 2015, 20:56:31)kingjohnthefirst Wrote: Perfect. :D

Thomas Jefferson's failure to ban slavery is... well... a failure, is it not?
Don't blame him. It was shot out the window. Besides since when is Gun Rights does anything with slavery. Slavery was out along time ago in America.

Come 'on Leftists I know you got something better than that.
Well, I have not really been following this discursive but originally the main reason for the 2nd amendment was so that the southern states could form "slave patrols" to patrol the state borders and make shure no slaves escaped to the northern states. Another thing about the 2nd amendment is that it says "a well regulated militia". In my opinion this dose not sound like "Hey everyone can have an AK47" besides, when the 2nd amendment was written the only gun the had was a musket which took 20 seconds to load if you where a well trained soldier.

I might have just said somthing that had absolutely nothing to do with the debate, but hey I still contributed somthing to this debate.
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:01:21)kingjohnthefirst Wrote: I just don't understand why any government anywhere would take away domestic and individual tranquility and safety by disarming their citizens. No empire seeking peace in their right mind would actively seek to un-empower its own citizens.

- I don't see any leftists here.

I just don't understand why any government would allow (for want of a better term) dangerous people to have firearms without any screening or restrictions. I don't understand why it should be that people are so fearful of being attacked or threatened by those dangerous elements with guns that they feel the need have to carry firearms in the first place.
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:07:20)Greater Ridd Wrote: I just don't understand why any government would allow (for want of a better term) dangerous people to have firearms without any screening or restrictions. I don't understand why it should be that people are so fearful of being attacked or threatened by those dangerous elements with guns that they feel the need have to carry firearms in the first place.

They don't...
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:09:13)kingjohnthefirst Wrote:
(2 Jul 2015, 21:07:20)Greater Ridd Wrote: I just don't understand why any government would allow (for want of a better term) dangerous people to have firearms without any screening or restrictions. I don't understand why it should be that people are so fearful of being attacked or threatened by those dangerous elements with guns that they feel the need have to carry firearms in the first place.

They don't...

I would hope so much. But alas no.
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:05:43)Emperor Patrick I of Paravia Wrote: Well, I have not really been following this discursive but originally the main reason for the 2nd amendment was so that the southern states could form "slave patrols" to patrol the state borders and make shure no slaves escaped to the northern states. Another thing about the 2nd amendment is that it says "a well regulated militia". In my opinion this dose not sound like "Hey everyone can have an AK47" besides, when the 2nd amendment was written the only gun the had was a musket which took 20 seconds to load if you where a well trained soldier.

I might have just said somthing that had absolutely nothing to do with the debate, but hey I still contributed somthing to this debate.

The second amendment is the only reason there has never been a foreign invasion of the United States of America.

The second amendment is the only reason we down south here in Texas don't belong to the Cartels. In Mexico- it's a different story. It's illegal to have firearms, so the Cartels are now in charge of all of the poor areas, because gun control has no effect on criminals.

Without the second amendment, what is stopping an armed man from coming into my house and murdering, raping, and robbing my family? Nothing.

(2 Jul 2015, 21:11:46)Greater Ridd Wrote: I would hope so much. But alas no.

It is ILLEGAL to be in possession of a firearm if you are convicted of a felony here.
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The citizens have rights to have things. One is the 2nd Amendment.

If citizens want guns then let them have them. Police can't do anything to stop every single crime that happens. Most situations can be resolved if the person owns a firearm and can help solve it by protecting themselves.
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