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Gun Control/Rights Thread (Redirected)
#11
2218 is not the time for gun control arguments. Goodnight.
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#12
(2 Jul 2015, 21:14:33)President Jackson Cole Wrote: The citizens have rights to have things. One is the 2nd Amendment.

If citizens want guns then let them have them. Police can't do anything to stop every single crime that happens. Most situations can be resolved if the person owns a firearm and can help solve it by protecting themselves.

Also- the police can't actually take people's guns away. All of the weapons used in crimes are procured by means which "gun control" cannot fix; we've watched this happen in other countries.

But the far left doesn't mind what happens in other countries, communism also never worked, but by God they'll try.
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#13
(2 Jul 2015, 21:13:11)kingjohnthefirst Wrote: The second amendment is the only reason there has never been a foreign invasion of the United States of America.

The second amendment is the only reason we down south here in Texas don't belong to the Cartels. In Mexico- it's a different story. It's illegal to have firearms, so the Cartels are now in charge of all of the poor areas, because gun control has no effect on criminals.

Without the second amendment, what is stopping an armed man from coming into my house and murdering, raping, and robbing my family? Nothing.
All I said was that the main reason the 2nd amendment was created was to preserve slavery. Also about the point with the drug cartels and criminals robbing you. 1 Texas would not be a part of the Mexican drug cartels without the 2nd amendment, because there is this thing called the US army. 2 when I comes to the "only a good person with a gun can stop a bad person with a gun" thing. Look a japan, a place where the gun control laws are very strict and very few people own a gun. There are barely people getting shot there. In the US there is virtually a shooting every week. About 11000 people on average die each year because of guns in the US. in places like the UK and Japan where there is very tight gun regulation it is about 50 and and 10 respectively.
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:20:51)Emperor Patrick I of Paravia Wrote: All I said was that the main reason the 2nd amendment was created was to preserve slavery. Also about the point with the drug cartels and criminals robbing you. 1 Texas would not be a part of the Mexican drug cartels without the 2nd amendment, because there is this thing called the US army. 2 when I comes to the "only a good person with a gun can stop a bad person with a gun" thing. Look a japan, a place where the gun control laws are very strict and very few people own a gun. There are barely people getting shot there. In the US there is virtually a shooting every week. About 11000 people on average die each year because of guns in the US. in places like the UK and Japan where there is very tight gun regulation it is about 50 and and 10 respectively.
And your proof is?
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:23:12)President Jackson Cole Wrote:
(2 Jul 2015, 21:20:51)Emperor Patrick I of Paravia Wrote: All I said was that the main reason the 2nd amendment was created was to preserve slavery. Also about the point with the drug cartels and criminals robbing you. 1 Texas would not be a part of the Mexican drug cartels without the 2nd amendment, because there is this thing called the US army. 2 when I comes to the "only a good person with a gun can stop a bad person with a gun" thing. Look a japan, a place where the gun control laws are very strict and very few people own a gun. There are barely people getting shot there. In the US there is virtually a shooting every week. About 11000 people on average die each year because of guns in the US. in places like the UK and Japan where there is very tight gun regulation it is about 50 and and 10 respectively.
And your proof is?
There have been many studies that have concluded that there are fewer people who die in Japan and the UK because of guns. I am not saying that people should not own a gun. I only say that they should be responsible, and that there is a corronation between the number of guns in a country and the number of deaths because of guns.

Here is an article from after sandy hook. I basically sais what I have: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worl...un-deaths/
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#16
Repeat After Me:

GUN CONTROL DOES NOT AFFECT CRIMINALS.
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:29:02)kingjohnthefirst Wrote: Repeat After Me:

GUN CONTROL DOES NOT AFFECT CRIMINALS.
If you make it more difficult to get a gun, it will affect them.
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#18
(2 Jul 2015, 21:28:48)Emperor Patrick I of Paravia Wrote: ...there is a corronation between the number of guns in a country and the number of deaths because of guns...

The number of guns in a country has NOTHING to do with gun control- because gun control does not affect criminals.

Yes, but gun control doesn't make it difficult for criminals to get guns.

LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES :@
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(2 Jul 2015, 21:30:28)kingjohnthefirst Wrote:
(2 Jul 2015, 21:28:48)Emperor Patrick I of Paravia Wrote: ...there is a corronation between the number of guns in a country and the number of deaths because of guns...

The number of guns in a country has NOTHING to do with gun control- because gun control does not affect criminals.

Yes, but gun control doesn't make it difficult for criminals to get guns.

LAW ENFORCEMENT DOSE :@
Gun control DOSE make it more difficult to get a gun. If people do background checks, people who have some mental issues, have a history of violence or is on a terrorist watch list could be prevent from getting a gun.
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#20
Patrick have you ever heard of the Black Market?

Read my lips: "Illegal Gun Traffic + Black Market= Criminals with Guns.

Sound familiar?
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