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Small and limited government is dead
#1
I know that in modern times, world governments have gotten a lot bigger and powerful. Unlimited government is destroying the world with it's endless power grabbing and debt burdens. I believe that limited government as a practice and philosophy is dead, now days you are even persecuted for advocating for more limited government. The governments themselves even persecute certain ideas. How is the situation in modern times any different from two centuries ago? Why should we have a big government now? We did just fine until a century or two ago with small governments.

Can the world be saved from it's own demise because of government and technology?
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#2
KUR's Government grows on the population of the citizens.
So far the government is fairly small.

I don't get persecuted, and I'm a Libertarian!

But yes, I agree that governments should be small. I think that America's government is getting to big, and uses wasteful spending that isn't needed.
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#3
The day the U.S government starts celebrating a supreme court decision as though it were an organisation with a collective and contrary opinion is the day it gets too big.

Loquntia's government is extremely small and extremely poor; and I hope it stays that way. But it's degrading to steal paper for official court proceedings. :(
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#4
Quote:But it's degrading to steal paper for official court proceedings.

Not if you declare it to be a honour. As the macrostate owes you, due to continous incompetence and desastrous acting, it would be degrading to buy it.

"It is a big Idea, a new world order!" (Bush senior) A big Idea for powerobsessed elites (present excluded ^^), the old obsession, from Alexander, Julius Cesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hitler, all the way to modern Multinational Corporations, Banks, Sects: to rule the world.

Certainly this involves some mechanisms that will reduce our liberties and our wellbeing.

It is an unfriendly takeover and should be treated as such. Unfortunately our host nations were prepared for it for decades, so there is no resistance from those pseudo sovereign authorities.

However, the bigger the macro state, the more real is the microstate within it.

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#5
(22 Jul 2015, 03:48:12)King Dieter I. Wrote:
Quote:But it's degrading to steal paper for official court proceedings.

Not if you declare it to be a honour. As the macrostate owes you, due to continous incompetence and desastrous acting, it would be degrading to buy it.

I like this view on the subject
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#6
Today's world is way more complex than the world of a hundred years ago, so governments have grown to deal with all this new complexity.

For example, nowadays we have a huge array of medical practices, finance techniques, and other technologies that most people don't understand at all. Because of this, its really easy to defraud someone by faking one of these; because of this, the government now has rules to try to make sure people don't defraud people, and teams of people, experts, to enforce those rules.

Unfortunately, these rules are highly complicated, and extremely difficult and expensive to enforce: bureaucracy is hell. Furthermore, these rules are often written by people who themselves do not understand what they are regulating, and the experts who enforce them are fallible.

This is coupled by the fact that people are naturally scared about things they don't understand. Because this world of today is much more complicated than the world of a two hundred years ago, there are more of these new things that are scary because we don't understand them. Different people have different ways of responding to this. Some, like our friend King Dieter here, tend to attribute these to an elitist plot. Common instinct, however, is to turn to an authority figure and demand that they take care of it. For a child, this would be his mother or father. For the citizen, this is the government. The government often then responds by trying to regulate it away: thus, more government.

Another reason for the increase in government size is the increase of dependence on economies of scale, also tied to more complexity. This means that the small tight knit trust based communities of yore are no longer capable of handling most situations we encounter. Thus, many of their responsibilities have been delegated up to the government.

Whether or not all this expansion is a good thing, that is debatable. Our complicated world today affords us a much improved standard of life, and it does require some degree of order to maintain. On the other hand, the more complicated the government, the more inefficient (bureaucracy is hell), and the more prone to abuse.

I personally lean libertarian, but I believe that I am in the minority in my micronation.

Oh, and can you elaborate on the part where you claim to be persecuted? I believe you live in Pennsylvania? How do you feel you've been persecuted?
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#7
I must admit, obviously I misunderstood what this topic is about. You're talking about the size of the administration in comparation to the entire country.

Having a high number of people, being employed by the state I do consider a parasitic situation. Very often their only purpose is to regulate things that have been working nicely unregulated, to fill paper with ink and to make the peoples lifes harder.

They do not produce food, houses, goods of any sort, but just sit there, ruling, tackling, consuming, getting huge paychecks, wasting tax money, growing just like cancer.

This I say after studing the authorities of switzerland for 35 years.

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(6 Jul 2015, 23:11:33)Mr. Prime Minister Wrote: I know that in modern times, world governments have gotten a lot bigger and powerful. Unlimited government is destroying the world with it's endless power grabbing and debt burdens. I believe that limited government as a practice and philosophy is dead, now days you are even persecuted for advocating for more limited government. The governments themselves even persecute certain ideas. How is the situation in modern times any different from two centuries ago? Why should we have a big government now? We did just fine until a century or two ago with small governments.

Can the world be saved from it's own demise because of government and technology?
What?

You clearly believe that we should be in the Middle Ages or something from your previous threads and this one. The Middle Ages, and frankly all times before modern technology are...not fun to say the least. And anyway, what is this supposed time when this "limited government" of yours has existed. There have always been taxes and national development in one form or another, or else nothing would work and/or the local lords would not get any money. Many American conservatives have this idea that "there was a time when America was exactly the way I envision it..." Well, there wasn't. Look it up on real sources if you wish to know the truth. And the government, my friend, is NOT unlimited.

If there was no technology, there's a good chance you'd be dead from smallpox right now. And what are these ideas they persecute - especially America, which doesn't persecute any idea you're thinking they persecute (I'm assuming you're from America), i.e. conservatism. The majority of the government is conservative. How is that persecution in any way?

And anyway, are you telling me you don't use a phone, a TV, any electronics because the AUTOMATONS are out to get you? Sorry, but I'm kind of sick of this paranoia of yours. I don't even know what the name of your micronation is, much less your idea of a "limited government.: And, believe me, libertarians aren't persecuted or there wouldn't be so many of them.

You should also listen to a few points made by Faustus. It would do you good.
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#9
God Bless Technology!!!!! :D (I want my Airsoft M1 Carbine rifle)

If it wasn't for Asthma Medicine, I think I'd have been dead by now.
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-John Meacham 
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." 
-Martin Luther King, Jr.  

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#10
"It's not the growth of technology that requires the growth of government, it's a failure by the people to grow with it." - Lewis Johnson

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