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A response, in brief
#1
(26 Feb 2016, 15:16:33)HL Richard I Wrote: You refused to obey our laws in terms of secession. We had turned enough of a blind eye to your social policies. Quite frankly, New Israel was the most privileged nation in the Empire, and when we tried to direct you more in line to our polity, you lost your nerve and had a temper tantrum.

Quote:hl_richard_1st 4:17 PM I'll kick this one open by asking you all if we should admit New Israel as a Member State of the Empire.
I personally think we should, as New Israel's admittance shows our dominance in the wake of the Freedomian Aggression, as well as bringing a new nation and leader into the fold.
arthur_lobao 4:19 PM I think it's our only option, anyway. Well just have to hope we can overrule his insanities

Quote:jamesfrisch 11:26 AM And make the clash with state law go down to 2/3, or keep that unanimous?
hl_richard_1st 11:26 AM Down to 2/3rds. We'll never get unanimous votes.
jamesfrisch 11:27 AM read: so that we can overrule some of New Israel's more controversial laws
hl_richard_1st 11:28 AM Well, maybe
I think we'll have to be willing to turn a blind eye to some of it.
arthur_lobao 11:29 AM I am all for a 2/3rds, very few votes should be unanimous
jamesfrisch 11:30 AM I doubt it would be unanimous, since the person whose laws are being overruled might take issue.
Lemme ask my Muslim mates to contact their network and stage an Islamic swarm of New Israel.
Call it New Palestine for bonus points.
hl_richard_1st 11:33 AM The Muslim Network. We all know it exists
jamesfrisch 11:33 AM They say they don't, but what else are minarets if not secret radio towers?
hl_richard_1st 11:35 AM They were historically watch towers to spot raiders. They aren't once mentioned in the Qur'an. It's one of the reasons the Swiss held a referendum to ban them (that succeeded) in 2009.
I wrote an essay on it and got 62%, I'm literally using this as my case in point of tackling New Israel's more troublesome laws

Quote:hl_richard_1st 7:22 PM My rebuttal to Markus seems to have worked, it looks like he's back on side.
arthur_lobao 7:24 PM Good job. You're the only one that actually gets through to him.
hl_richard_1st 7:26 PM Because I temper my Christianity with being able to call a spade a spade.
I think it just confuses him tbh
#2
Is this recent, Markus?

Perhaps instead of taking it here and posting it on the forum, maybe "MicroLeaks" would be a better idea.
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#3
What is this? I thought all this was in the past?
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#4
In brief, stop acting like a child if you expect to tell people you're supposed to be the leader of a nation. These threads don't help you like you think they do.
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#5
(16 Mar 2016, 22:59:24)Dallin Langford Wrote: Is this recent, Markus?

Perhaps instead of taking it here and posting it on the forum, maybe "MicroLeaks" would be a better idea.

No, I believe this was quite long ago in fact.
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#6
Yup, this is all from last year. This is the second time you've leaked these logs, in fact.
This doesn't at all change my statement; we wanted to make changes to bring New Israel more in line with the Imperial body. The Imperial Constitution promoted equality and freedom; the then New Israeli law canon permitted stoning homosexuals to death. You can see how we wanted to try and present a unified front in Imperial policy, no?

Why bring this up so late anyway? It's been at least a month since our last spat, and its not like it took you too long to write.
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#7
Wait a minute, they condone stoning homosexuals to death?! That is so wrong. I understand that the bible says that specific things are a sin but who is a government to try and tell people who they can and can't love or be with? And also let me just say this, I am not bullying (nor is anyone else here) Markus but man why bring up the past? Also you are making youself look bad and more leaders will hold hostility towards you for your extremist views. Again, you are the Emperor of your nation and you can do as you please but please don't get upset when you get criticized by other micronational leaders. I would suggest you leave the past in the past. I recognize New Israel as a sovereign micronation and respect everyone including Markus but some things are just going too far. But of course the Communitarian NS Republic will not try to pull a US and try to tell New Israel what to do. We can only make suggestions, such as leave the past in the past. If you keep bringing things like this up a conflict can spark and can lead to worse things. Can't we all just have a little peace in our nations? Peaceful relations are so much better than rocky conflicts. But if conflict is what you like I can make arrangements with the DPRF and tell them that you want to be invaded, I mean, just saying...
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#8
Markus, I speak with honesty here.

You need to lay low with the heavy hand on dealing with people. You're not going to get any favors or anything done with these absurd, North Korean-esqe laws that you've enacted. What are we, romans? Better get my ticket to the colossuseum to watch some gladiators kill each other. No one is going to help you out or agree with your nation if you keep up with this nonsense. You need to get a grip on yourself and look in the mirror before this gets out of hand.
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#9
(17 Mar 2016, 10:03:59)HL Richard I Wrote: Yup, this is all from last year. This is the second time you've leaked these logs, in fact.
This doesn't at all change my statement; we wanted to make changes to bring New Israel more in line with the Imperial body. The Imperial Constitution promoted equality and freedom; the then New Israeli law canon permitted stoning homosexuals to death. You can see how we wanted to try and present a unified front in Imperial policy, no?

Why bring this up so late anyway? It's been at least a month since our last spat, and its not like it took you too long to write.

Richard, you may read the Law Canon for yourself (I believe it is accessible via the Wuertige Forum). There is no death penalty - especially not via stoning - for homosexuals in the Law Canon or any other laws in the Holy Empire.

Homosexual or not, there is a death penalty for rape (this could include sodomy) in the Holy Empire, and stoning is certainly an option for such a heinous crime.
#10
(18 Mar 2016, 22:07:12)Emperor Markus II Wrote:
(17 Mar 2016, 10:03:59)HL Richard I Wrote: Yup, this is all from last year. This is the second time you've leaked these logs, in fact.
This doesn't at all change my statement; we wanted to make changes to bring New Israel more in line with the Imperial body. The Imperial Constitution promoted equality and freedom; the then New Israeli law canon permitted stoning homosexuals to death. You can see how we wanted to try and present a unified front in Imperial policy, no?

Why bring this up so late anyway? It's been at least a month since our last spat, and its not like it took you too long to write.

Richard, you may read the Law Canon for yourself (I believe it is accessible via the Wuertige Forum). There is no death penalty - especially not via stoning - for homosexuals in the Law Canon or any other laws in the Holy Empire.

Homosexual or not, there is a death penaltyfor rape (this could include sodomy) in the Holy Empire, and stoning is certainly an option for such a heinous crime.

And you wonder why people dislike you. Jesus, have you EVER read the bible? You know, remember how Jesus encourage those guys to stone that adultuer woman?

Oh, wait. JESUS DID THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. My god, do you have ANY respect for human rights? I'm not saying I totally support homosexuality, but I certainly want to keep my distance from your Nazi laws. Why the hell do you like Judaism? You act and think like a Nazi!

How can you claim to be a nation of God when you have this North Korean/Nazi Germany law system? Maybe New Israel the real Sodom and Gorrmoah: They couldn't find 10 righteous people in Sodom. I'm thinking the same about New Saudia Arabia here.
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