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What on earth is going on in UK politics?
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Quite simply; the civil war in the ruling party of UK politics that has been fought for multiple generations could remove a fourth straight Conservative Prime Minister out of office (Thatcher, Major, Cameron and now May).

UK parliamentary politics has now become a laughing stock. Nobody can take any of the main parties quite so seriously anymore. If it wasn’t for the civil war in the Tories then perhaps we would not be in this mess in the first place. Labour are playing an almighty “parliamentary coup”; willing to create the instability that bringing down the government would cause. Yet that is Socialism for you; they want to make the poor poorer as long as the rich are poorer also.

However the plain ignorance of the People’s Vote campaign is quite astonishing. We had the vote in 2016; a referendum I could not partake in because quite simply I wasn’t old enough. I respected the result of that referendum because quite simply; that is democracy. In the UK; we frown upon leaders within countries that abuse human rights. That sometimes includes withholding the rights to vote. Simply put; if we choose to hold a second referendum; are we simply no better than the dictatorships around the world?
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Just wanting to reference the comments of Artemis Berry when she downgraded my reputation. Just want to state that whilst we hold a disagreement of opinion; she is entitled to decrease my reputation points. I just don't want to come across as some bitter individual that creates useless drama with well respected individuals of this community. 

"First off, misconception about referendum. Secondly, socialism doesn't work that way."

To address the first point; I don't wholly disagree with a second referendum if it is to decide the terms of our departure because the public wasn't consulted on that question. That said a referendum with the same question as the first would be plain madness. It wouldn't be a People's Vote; it would be the Establishment's Vote. It would be a vote for losers and would shown plain ignorance to the 35 million voters who made an effort to vote the first time round; having been told it would be a "once in a generation decision". A generation typically ranges between 22 and 33 years? I wonder how Artemis would feel regarding a second independence referendum in Scotland or replaying the World Cup multiple times just so England could win? In respect for the latter, it would be great but you know...

In regards to the point on socialism; what working-class individuals struggle to realise when they continually vote for socialism each election is they would get to keep less of their hard-earned money under socialist rule than under capitalist due to an increase in taxation. In Labour's manifesto; they proposed that 95% of all taxpayers would be guaranteed no increase to their Income Tax contributions. This compared to a current moderate government that has increased the Personal Allowance on which individuals can earn before paying tax from £7,475 in 2010/11 to £12,500 in 2019/20. That evidence states rather clearly that Socialism doesn't look after the poor like it claims.
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well it really depends you can support socalism/communism but the goverment cant allow you because its captlist and gives you the money you get and thats the micronations that act communist do a place for the people not to be forced under capitalism
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(13 Dec 2018, 19:44:42)Walker391 Wrote: In regards to the point on socialism; what working-class individuals struggle to realise when they continually vote for socialism each election is they would get to keep less of their hard-earned money under socialist rule than under capitalist due to an increase in taxation. In Labour's manifesto; they proposed that 95% of all taxpayers would be guaranteed no increase to their Income Tax contributions. This compared to a current moderate government that has increased the Personal Allowance on which individuals can earn before paying tax from £7,475 in 2010/11 to £12,500 in 2019/20. That evidence states rather clearly that Socialism doesn't look after the poor like it claims.

I mean, the government has basically frozen or reduced a lot of taxes and duties, reducing the government's income and increasing its' reliance on borrowing - at a time when the government wants to spend inordinate amounts of dough on a massively non-sensical policy that most of parliament and the government itself knows is an awful idea. I study transport, so forgive my nerdiness, but the continuous fuel duty freezes are a constant reminder of how the government intentionally makes more affordable public transport less accessible to more people and prioritizes the satisfaction of those who can afford to run a motor vehicle.

That's hardly going to look after the poor.
(Also this is a pre-dinner stream of consciousness)
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